http://fearofflyingmessageboard.com/topic/1691/t/Fire.html en-us Copyright 2006, Kickapps feeds@kickapps.com (FeedMaster) webmaster@kickapps.com (WebMaster) Sun, 17 Aug 2008 12:52:11 GMT Thu, 21 Aug 2008 20:54:27 GMT Kickapps Feeds 1.0 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss 60 {pics-1.1 "http://www.icra.org/ratingsv02.html" l gen true for "http://kickapps.com" r (nz 1 vz 1 lz 1 oz 1 cz 1 ) "http://www.rsac.org/ratingsv01.html" l gen true for "http://kickapps.com" r (n 0 s 0 v 0 l 0 )) Search Domain q http://kickapps.com/search/direct/ http://fearofflyingmessageboard.com/reply/5934/t/Fire.html#reply-5934 feeds@kickapps.com (Capt Tom Bunn MSW LCSW) http://fearofflyingmessageboard.com/sreply/5934 Thu, 21 Aug 2008 20:54:27 PST http://fearofflyingmessageboard.com/reply/5927/t/Fire.html#reply-5927 Accidents like Spanair in Madrid gives fuel to the imagination, but can the strengthening exercise been used in other anxiety situations than just flying, like when you arrive at a car accident scene or other situations where you normally get a high pulse because of adrenaline? I know that the police use tactical breathing, which is effective, but I am interested in this exercise if it can contribute to an even more calm state of mind in stressful situations in general.

]]> feeds@kickapps.com (Andreas) http://fearofflyingmessageboard.com/sreply/5927 Wed, 20 Aug 2008 08:35:35 PST http://fearofflyingmessageboard.com/reply/5923/t/Fire.html#reply-5923
Good. BUT, easier said than done. What I'm trying to get across is that repeatedly exposing your thoughts (in detail) to disasters makes it change from seeming like imagination to seeming like destiny.

Once that shift has taken place, it isn't easy to examine it, but I'm glad you are now facing that.

The other part of the solution is the Strengthening Exercise to work on neutralizing these mental items. ]]> feeds@kickapps.com (Capt Tom Bunn MSW LCSW) http://fearofflyingmessageboard.com/sreply/5923 Mon, 18 Aug 2008 04:14:19 PST http://fearofflyingmessageboard.com/reply/5922/t/Fire.html#reply-5922 hehe, like your attitude. The chance of crashing is almost non-existent, and the odds of being burned alive when being conscious is even less, so I think I'll give it a rest and worry about other things. Thanks!


]]> feeds@kickapps.com (Andreas) http://fearofflyingmessageboard.com/sreply/5922 Sun, 17 Aug 2008 14:14:37 PST http://fearofflyingmessageboard.com/reply/5921/t/Fire.html#reply-5921
First, you miss the point that accidents are rare. In fact, they are so rare that any approach that was a balanced view of risks to your life would put flying way down the list.

Second, when you view TV about accidents, or when you repeatedly imagine an accident, you end of putting that into memory as if it were fact. Then, when you recall it, you get the impression you are recalling fact. You aren't.

So to simply address your questions tends to lend it status which it does not have. These things you are asking about are so rare as to be irrelevant. But never the less:
... ]]> feeds@kickapps.com (Capt Tom Bunn MSW LCSW) http://fearofflyingmessageboard.com/sreply/5921 Sun, 17 Aug 2008 13:49:27 PST http://fearofflyingmessageboard.com/topic/1691/t/Fire.html When I fly, I don't worry much about the plane breaking apart at 35 000 feet or nosediving into a mountain at 500 mph, because then you die instantly. A good way to go if you ask me. But what I don't like is the prospect of a captain who tries to smoothly crash in a field with me surviving the impact but surrounded by fire which turns me into a BBQ before smoke puts an end to the party called life.

Does anyone know how many planes have lost passengers because of fire? Is smoke or fire the main killer? Does it take long for the toxic fumes in an airplane to knock you out? Will the pilots dump most of the fuel before impact, and will that normally be enough to reduce a fire? If so, why the huge fireball at Sioux City?

Is a smoke hood useful? But then again, being stuck in a burning fuselag with such a hood will just prolong the misery. Aaah, sweet worries about something not likely to happen. Better stop watching National Geographic...

... ]]> feeds@kickapps.com (Andreas) http://fearofflyingmessageboard.com/topic/1691 Sun, 17 Aug 2008 12:52:11 PST