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Cheers,
Mitch
]]> feeds@kickapps.com (MountainMitch) http://fearofflyingmessageboard.com/sreply/6902 Mon, 01 Jun 2009 18:23:59 PST http://fearofflyingmessageboard.com/reply/6899/t/Backtracked-and-feel-terrible-about-it-.html#reply-6899
I prepared by redoing the strengthening exercieses, 5,4,3,2,1, good music on the Ipod. Deliberately NOT looking at weather like I obsessively did and I did quite well. Of course, the situation that prompted me to post didn't exist. SOme parts of the flight were bumy in that the seat belt sign was on, but nothing major and I again imagined myself skimming over choppy water, and counting during the chop, knowing that a plane flying at almost 600mph can get past most weather fronts in ten minutes or so.

Landing in ABQ was choppy, apparently springtime is windy there. My seatmate lokoed nervous, but I was so focused on the scenery (Geology major in college) that I really didnt notice.

So that was a... ]]> feeds@kickapps.com (xetere) http://fearofflyingmessageboard.com/sreply/6899 Mon, 01 Jun 2009 15:22:24 PST http://fearofflyingmessageboard.com/reply/6863/t/Backtracked-and-feel-terrible-about-it-.html#reply-6863
I think that what Debbie (your "star" client and good friend of us both, and occasional poster here) has said is instructional. And -- is consistent with what you have said here. Her "hypothesis" is -- FF is NEVER truly cured. SOAR teaches methods and techniques (OK, Weapons, if you will) to effectively deal with it.

And -- FFs do deal with it, through SOAR. Very successfully.

I think the most important thing here is, for people to NOT beat themselves up for an occasional relapse. It is normal, and does not detract from the basic SOAR premise.

Cheers.

Steve

]]> feeds@kickapps.com (Capn Steve) http://fearofflyingmessageboard.com/sreply/6863 Tue, 26 May 2009 17:01:52 PST http://fearofflyingmessageboard.com/reply/6862/t/Backtracked-and-feel-terrible-about-it-.html#reply-6862
The first I saw of this was years ago when we did "live" courses at airports. We also had introductory meetings for potential clients, and at those meetings, we asked a "graduate" to come to talk about his or her experiences. What I found was shocking. Those "graduates" who came in and told the prospective clients they were cured had a setback. Those "graduates" who said they might never really like flying but they were dealing with it, and sometimes had difficult feelings, but were able to manage continued to improve.

I think pronouncing ones self cured is artificial, and... ]]> feeds@kickapps.com (Capt Tom Bunn MSW LCSW) http://fearofflyingmessageboard.com/sreply/6862 Tue, 26 May 2009 07:12:44 PST http://fearofflyingmessageboard.com/reply/6861/t/Backtracked-and-feel-terrible-about-it-.html#reply-6861
I wanted to reply as I am in a similar situation -- did fine with my first flights after SOAR, then suddenly had a flight where I was shocked by my feelings ---which I had thought were a thing of the past. So I am coming back to the boards and the website and doing the strengthening exercise again with a new memory.
Thanks for sharing your story, hope to see an update from you on your next flight :-)

Thanks. ]]> feeds@kickapps.com (luna412) http://fearofflyingmessageboard.com/sreply/6861 Mon, 25 May 2009 20:47:33 PST http://fearofflyingmessageboard.com/reply/6678/t/Backtracked-and-feel-terrible-about-it-.html#reply-6678
You'll be sure to get my call if I need it next time.

Thanks for your help. Other than this one blip, your program worked wonders, really, I was jetting all over the world in 2008. ]]> feeds@kickapps.com (xetere) http://fearofflyingmessageboard.com/sreply/6678 Fri, 03 Apr 2009 08:05:57 PST http://fearofflyingmessageboard.com/reply/6676/t/Backtracked-and-feel-terrible-about-it-.html#reply-6676
If not, what happened to you becomes a big deal. You feel like a jerk and feel like you are setback, etc., etc., etc.

Just go ahead and fly. Before the flight, "warm up" the Strengthening Exercise with a couple of sessions. When you get to the airport, if you get edgy, just call. 877 332-7359. ]]> feeds@kickapps.com (Capt Tom Bunn MSW LCSW) http://fearofflyingmessageboard.com/sreply/6676 Fri, 03 Apr 2009 07:42:06 PST http://fearofflyingmessageboard.com/topic/1921/t/Backtracked-and-feel-terrible-about-it-.html Definitely nervous but practised the strengthening exercises and the 5-4-3-2-1 exercies.

So I went to Florida to visit mom. Front along the east coast, no problem a little bumpy (pilots apologized) but I felt great. Imagined I was skimming a choppy sea (works better for me than Jell-o)

Got to PBI Tuesday night for the return flight and there was a huge thunderstorm over the airport, every TV in the airport bar was tuned to the "emergency weather frequency" talking about hail toradoes, cloud tops of 40,000 feet. The sky looked purple, black and greenish like I had never seen before, and well, I saw a funnel cloud (always wanted to see a tornado but not... ]]> feeds@kickapps.com (xetere) http://fearofflyingmessageboard.com/topic/1921 Fri, 03 Apr 2009 05:10:07 PST