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        <![CDATA[ Flying from New York to Shannon, Ireland sometime around the end of July to the beginning of August. Never been before. Anyone know how that flight usually is?
Very nervous flyer! It&#39;s just the turbulence that gets me every time! Thank you  ]]>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: Ireland anyone? ]]></title>
			<link>http://fearofflyingmessageboard.com/reply/7242/t/Ireland-anyone-.html#reply-7242</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ Thank you! That helps so much. I kind of figured that, I just wanted to hear it from someone who actually knew the correct answer. Ok, I feel better about
flying over large bodies of water now. 2 weeks until Ireland...I can&#39;t actually believe it. ]]></description>

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			<author>feeds@kickapps.com (Alex)</author>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 07:53:41 PST</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: Ireland anyone? ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ You are right, Alex. If you look at the flight paths, it is not usually directly across even a large body of water like an ocean, but much more tightly hugging
the land lines of the continents, etc. There are always many contingency plans for planes should they encounter trouble and need to land, and a safe airport is
always nearby. So many layers of protection and contingency that we passengers can only begin to appreciate, I think!
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Hope this helps a bit.
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Meghan ]]></description>

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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: Ireland anyone? ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ The more people that join in this conversation the merrier! <img src="http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/smile.gif"> I love hearing everyone&#39;s story-it makes me so much more relaxed. I did have a question that
maybe someone has the answer to...when flying over water, I&#39;ve always had this idea that you&#39;re in the middle of nowhere with no land nearby. I know
that pilots are always in contact with the control tower, but when flying over water (such as the atlantic) do they fly certain distances from land so that if
there was a problem they could land? I&#39;m not sure if I&#39;m phrasing this correctly. I believe I heard someone once say that pilots always flew a certain
distance from any part of land when flying over water, but they could have been wrong. Thanks to anyone who knows the answer! ]]></description>

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			<author>feeds@kickapps.com (Alex)</author>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: Ireland anyone? ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Jumping into this conversation late, but I also hate turbulence. Lately, though, I&#39;ve found that calming strategies like 5-4-3-2-1, watching a glass of
water, or just counting or meditating not only calms me and focuses my mind on the &quot;what is, not what if&quot;, it also can oddly work WITH turbulence.
Almost like how babies almost always get lulled to sleep in a stroller or in a car.
<br>
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Not sure if this would be the case for anyone else, but if nothing else knowing this is possible (i.e. you won&#39;t necessarily by panicked but possibly
calmed instead) might help some anticipatory anxiety!
<br>
<br>
Meghan ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:05:21 PST</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[ My strategy is just going to try and fall asleep for as much of the trip as I can. we&#39;re landing in the morning. If I can just not psych myself out during
any turbulence I think I&#39;ll be just fine. I&#39;m trying to have as much of a positive outlook on this as possible. ]]></description>

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			<author>feeds@kickapps.com (Alex)</author>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Hate turbulence! Of course. It messes up your strategy of keeping stuff out of mind. Much better to have a strategy of training your mind to NOT react to it. ]]></description>

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			<author>feeds@kickapps.com (Capt Tom Bunn MSW LCSW)</author>
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			<description><![CDATA[ I take the Aer Lingus flights to Shannon or Dublin several times per year, and I agree with Captain Tom. Light turbulence over Canada, but other than that,
it&#39;s a fairly smooth journey. I often can sleep (at least for a while) on the way over. And I hate turbulence. ]]></description>

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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: Ireland anyone? ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Look. It is like this. When there is difficulty regulating anxiety, even the slightest uncertainty drives people up the wall. So they try to get control to
remove the uncertainty. On a plane that doesn&#39;t work. And the other thing done on the ground is to get away from the uncertainty, or to always have a way
to escape.
<br>
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The way people escape once on the plane is to try to block out awareness. That is a form of distancing - or dissociation - from a &quot;problem&quot;. Where
doesn&#39;t that work? On takeoff and in turbulence.
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This is nothing more than an inability to keep something out of mind. Turbulence is too intrusive.
<br>
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And there is no way to get a handle on this other than to build inside yourself the emotional strength to regulate feelings.
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If you want more emotional strength, get &quot;Complete Relief&quot; at <a title="" target="_blank" href="http://www.fearofflying.com/relief/">www.fearofflying.com/relief/</a> That trains you mind... ]]></description>

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			<author>feeds@kickapps.com (Capt Tom Bunn MSW LCSW)</author>
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			<description><![CDATA[ I&#39;m so glad that everyone is responding with information on turbulence. What I&#39;m wondering is...the turbulence that is being mentioned-bad turbulence
or just a little bumpy? You can see the fear coming out here. But I am so grateful that everyone has been so responsive! It&#39;s really been so comforting to
read ]]></description>

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			<author>feeds@kickapps.com (Alex)</author>
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			<description><![CDATA[ You also might experience some turbulence around Greenland. I know on every flight I ve been on to and from the UK we always hit turbulence when we were close
to Greenland. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Hello! How is Shannon? I&#39;ve never been to Ireland, and I can&#39;t wait to go! I&#39;m spending a few nights in dublin and then heading out to the
countryside. It has made me less afraid to fly reading all these posts. I did some reading on aer lingus-they seem to be a great airline. and the airplanes are
green! never seen a green airplane before <img src="http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/smile.gif"> thank you again! ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Hey Alex, I&#39;m from Ireland. I&#39;m actually going to be working in SNN for the summer. Aer Lingus are a great airline, or at least they seemed to be any
time i&#39;ve flown with them. My friends fly with them from SNN to the US the whole time and there&#39;s never been any problems. And if it&#39;s turbulence
you&#39;re worried about make sure you go back and read up on what Capt. Tom said about it. It definitely helped with me anyway. Best of luck with your trip <img src="http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/smile.gif"> ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:19:29 PST</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Thank you everyone that has replied so far! I&#39;ve never been to Ireland. And thank you for the turbulence warning. I sob on board, the night before, and on
the way to the airport. It&#39;s horrible. I&#39;m flying Aer Lingus, and would also like to know how they are.
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We&#39;re supposed to be taking a night flight...any better with the turbulence? Turbulence is my biggest fear...I actually don&#39;t mind flying, except for
the bumpiness. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Yay! Ireland! I&#39;m going, too! I&#39;m leaving the beginning of July and returning in early August, flying from BOS to SNN! Cannot wait!!! I&#39;ve always
wanted to see my &quot;homeland.&quot; : )
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As I&#39;ve written elsewhere on these boards, I have SOAR to thank for my ability to get on a plane, happily and (relatively) calmly, with my two kids. I am a
walking advert for how well SOAR works because I used to sob--literally--during boarding. It was embarrassing. I even chose not to fly, once, out of fear. : (
<br>
<br>
That&#39;s not to say that sometimes I don&#39;t have an occasional set-back, an occasional bout of mild panic, but I have many miles post-SOAR (China, Japan,
around the US).
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<br>
Thanks, Captain Tom, for the info on turbulence en route.
<br>
<br>
Anyone ever flown Aer Lingus, by the way?? Good service?? ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ There is usually some light turbulence going up the coast of Canada, and then again about an hour from landing in Shannon. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ There is usually some light turbulence going up the coast of Canada, and then again about an hour from landing in Shannon. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ There is usually some light turbulence going up the coast of Canada, and then again about an hour from landing in Shannon. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Flying from New York to Shannon, Ireland sometime around the end of July to the beginning of August. Never been before. Anyone know how that flight usually is?
Very nervous flyer! It&#39;s just the turbulence that gets me every time! Thank you <img src="http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/smile.gif"> ]]></description>

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