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H90000	LAX to Honolulu, Is this flight normally bumpy?	Lead	[-]
Posts: 6 (08/04/08 09:05:24) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Tags : None Flying to Hawaii next week. I'm wondering if this route is normally more or less bumpy than routes in the 48? Something about being in severe turbulance over the Pacific has me a little anxious. A couple weeks ago on approach to JFK the pilots asked the flight attendents to take thir seats on approach because it was going to be a little bumpy. By the time we reached 4000' (seat backs had the inflight monitor) it was pretty rough. It seemed to be getting rougher as we decended. As the plane pitched back and forward, side to side you could hear the engines whining up and down, I imagine to keep altitude. I remember seeing the landing lights and right as i saw them the pilot hit the gas and we were going back up. The turbulance was unbelievable to the point that the pilot came on and said not to worry that everything is under control but that his wind sheer warning indicated that it was outside the safety limits to attempt to land the aircraft. We ended up going to Philly. I guess my point is that I really don't have fear of turbulance any longer. If the aircraft didn't have problems in than these things are really built well. I couldn't imagine it being any worse. I have a new found respect for the capabilities of these airliners. I look back at being nervous when a plane would hit a few bumps and realize how silly I was. There is a bit of comfort knowing your over land though if something were to go wrong............
Capt Tom Bunn MSW LCSW		#1	[-]
Posts: 2332 (08/04/08 14:06:32) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Re: engines changing speed. That is not to hold the altitude, but to keep the speed correct. Turbulence isn't a problem for the plane. The problem PEOPLE has is this: it is easy to not totally outgrow the idea that if you think something, it must be true and if feel something, it must be real. After all, your feelings are real. They are real feelings, but they are not REAL-ITY. So when there is turbulence, it is easy -- since it disturbs you -- to think it disturbs the plane. It doesn't. The plane couldn't care less.
ornellas		#2	[-]
Posts: 2 (08/26/08 15:35:51) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	how did your flight go?i'm flying from honolulu to lax please tell me it was a great flight would you do it again?
H90000		#3	[-]
Posts: 7 (09/07/08 17:53:53) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Both the flights to and from Honolulu were perfect. Never felt a bump the whole way. The flights seemed shorter than many of the conus flights I've been on. BTW, I love Delta.

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I know everyone worries about weather, but pilots really do not worry about it. We simply - instead of worrying about it - completely prepare for it. Before going to the plane, we review the weather at the destination. If it is not 100% sure to be within legal limits when we arrive at the destination, we must specify an alternate airport in our planning documents, and load on plenty of fuel for going to the destination airport, and then if need be, diverting to the alternate airport.

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